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September 20, 2005

Immortality At The Pub

MY answer to the question of immortality, is "yes, please!". Amongst the questions, are - how would we live longer, should we live longer? And What do we mean by immortality? Life is very short and its a dirty, dirty crime. In the ancient Roman Empire, the average citizen could expect to live around twenty to twenty-five years, and he wasn't legally an adult until his father had died. By Shakespeare's day, thirty was terribly old. By nineteen-hundred, people lived to about forty or fifty. Today the average life expectancy is about seventy-five years, and we've only had scientific medicine for about a hundred years, and its only slowly being applied in general practice. We now have a deep understanding of aging at the cellular level. Free radicals are the smoke from our cells burning food for energy, and they cause damage that accumulates over time. We can make worms live several times longer, by silencing certain genes. We can increase by forty per cent the healthy life span of mice by restricting the calories they eat. Researchers have identified the SIRT1 gene that is activated when you live on a restricted diet, and they are testing a drug called resveratrol that will achieve the same effects of making DNA easier to maintain. Resveratrol is available in red grape skins, red wine, dark chocolate, blueberries, mulberries, peanuts, the traditional medicine "Japanese knotweed", and seventy other plants. Resveratrol is also used medically to fight heart disease, cancer, influenza, HIV and other illnesses. The life extension field is haunted by pessimists who are hung up on the Greek myth of Tiphonius who asked the Gods for eternal life, but was doomed to become decrepid because he forgot to specify eternal youth. I would argue that one of the main goals of medicine is to help people live as healthy as possible for as long as possible. Getting the impaired, repaired Woody Allen said "Some people want to achieve immortality through their works or their descendants. I prefer to achieve immortality by not dying." The longest human life on record is the 122 years achieved by the cigarette-smoking French woman Jeanne Calment, who died in 1997. The upper limit on flesh has long been thought to be the Hayflick Limit. Hayflick showed that cells in the lab only divide about fifty times before they get sick and die. A recent study in London has shown that by age eighteen, the fuse on the time bomb of cell death is about 7500 base pairs of chromosomes long, and shortened at an average of 27 pairs per year. By back-of-the-envelope calculations, this means that if the women in the study aren't killed by disease or misadventure, then they can live for another two hundred and seventy-seven years before the Hayflick limit stops their cells from replicating and tells them to start dying. In glass, we can reverse this aging of cells by extending the telomere fuse that burns down as cells age, with an enzyme called telomerase. We don't know how to apply this to humans without causing cancer yet, but I think I can confidently say that nobody has died of the Hayflick Limit yet. It seems that curing the diseases of old age is now more of an engineering problem than a scientific mystery. The Methuselah M-prize has been started by the people who got private industry into space with the Ansuri X-prize. The M-prize goes to the people who get mice to live significantly longer, in ways that may be applied to people. If you can just survive to the next medical breakthrough technology, you might be able to survive a few years more, until the next little development, which might give you even more years. This way, if you're very lucky you may get climb a sort of "stairway to heaven" and leapfrog from one medical engineering discovery to the next. Imagine what the medical technology of 2150 might be able to do for us? As the Jehovah's Witnesses said in 1918 "Millions now living may never die". When talking about immortality its fascinating that some people get angry when you propose living forever. The audience for the panel were split between the "dyers" or "terminators" and the people who believed that life is worth living. One correspondent spoke to me about about living longer being a selfish use of Earth's limited resources. This ignores the fact that RIGHT NOW Paul and the many people who agree with him, are making selfish use of Earth's limited resources, and by the same argument that condemns old people to die in the future, they are condemning themselves to die right now. I asked himl if he was offering to suicide to give up his use of Earth's resources right now, but he declined. They've decided on a particular number that is "natural", and not only have they decided to die at that age, but they insist that EVERYBODY should be forced to go without whatever medical treatment might become available, and commit suicide at their favourite number. The dyers, with my correspondent as their spokesperson decided that most of them would like to die at age eight-five, which is about a ten year extension of the average life expectancy of seventy-five. This requires life extension technology not yet available. What right does anybody have to tell other people to commit suicide? American writer Ronald Bailey wrote about the emotional battle between the pessimists and the optimists: "Future generations will look back at the beginning of the 21st century and marvel that intelligent people actually tried to stop biomedical progress just to protect their cramped and limited vision of human nature." So maybe living a long time, even hundreds of years isn't impossible, and may be an inevitable working of the advance of medical engineering, but what about immortality? Living forever? Its not really enough to just live a really long, happy, healthy life and then get assasinated or run over by a car. Eternal life means being able to recover from even these set-backs, maybe by having an off-site back-up of ourselves, to be resurrected in emergencies. Lets look at what's happening at the bleeding edge of possible technology. The Cryonics people with their slogan of "freeze, wait, reanimate", have been dismissed for years because they haven't successfully reanimated anyone. However, earlier this year, researchers discovered that hydrogen sulphide can put rats into suspended animation, for short periods of time, and last week they revived dogs frozen after several hours of clinical death.. Freezing people might not work right now, but it looks like something a little like it might become available for surgery, the battlefield, and space travel. Drexler proposed that tiny robots, a billionth of a metre across, could be sent into our cells to repair damage, and fight diseases.. We're now making the first tiny robots and nanomaterials, and nanotechnology is an undergraduate course at UTS. Environmental groups have been protesting about the use of nanomaterials in cosmetics. The Green party in Europe debated whether nano-robots were about to run amok and take over the world. When you can program matter down to the molecular level, you can achive wondrous things. Perhaps even survive a fatal accident or murder. If your mind were able to be recorded from your brain, and perhaps some of your skins cells kept on ice, then a future life assurance company could clone you a new body, and then write your mind onto the brain. You might get your memories recorded once a month, just in case. Or, if you're feeling more adventurous, you could have your mind run in a virtual reality inside a computer, where your every wish can be fulfilled. Or you could have a bet both ways and have your computer mind running a robot body. Science fiction writers Vernor Vinge and Damien Broderick talk about the singularity, or the spike, where scientific breakthroughs start happening faster and faster until they are increasing exponentionally. At the spike, as soon as a human can think of doing something, the method and resources to do it become available. Should any of us survive this event, a very long and healthy life would seem a trivial thing to ask for. Maybe only some people will want to live for centuries, and some will be content to live to 122. There may be social pressures to call it a day at 295 when you reach the Hayflick Limit, and let the kids have a go. Suicide could become an acceptable social choice, or perhaps it will still be seen as crazy. Imagine the world we could have if great geniuses like Leonardo Da Vinci and Nikola Tesla were able to continue their work for centuries?

Young Blood for Old Mice

Scientific vampirism with glow-in-the-dark mice at Stanford University, has given elderly mice the ability to recover their youth. Professor Thomas Rando's team have discovered that young blood from young mice will rejuvenate old mice. All they had to do was hook up their blood circulation together. In a process called "heterochronic parabiosis", the old mouse and the young mouse were circulating the same blood. One of the biggest differences between young people and old people is that young people's injuries heal fast, and old people's injuries don't heal well, and often don't heal at all. It turns out that your body's natural healing processes are regulated by signals communicated from the injury site to specialized stem cells. They're told to migrate towards the injury and turn into the cells needed to heal. These specialized "progenitor" stem cells are still present in old people and they are still listening for the signal, its just that they're not being broadcast the instruction to heal anymore. Unlike embryonic stem cells, which could become anything, progenitor cells have begun the path to specialization. Progenitor cells are committed stem cells, that will only become one kind of cell when given the right signal. These progenitor cells hang out as satellite cells in the body's organs. Our bone marrow is full of blood progenitor cells, which are stimulated by the recombinant protein erythropoietin to make billions of new blood cells every day. Inflammation is part of the body's response to injury. Progenitor cells are involved in keeping inflammation of the damaged area under control, making sure the body's arteries run smoothly. Inflammation is a key part of atherosclerosis, the disease that causes fatty deposits to build up in the lining of arteries. Its also a large part of arthritis, another disease of old age. It may be that the inflammation goes out of control in these diseases because of a failure of communication of the right signals to the progenitor cells from old blood. If you give old mice young blood, by hooking up their veins with a young mouse in a "parabiotic pairing" for five weeks, then their muscle and liver injuries heal just as fast as the young mice. The difference is due to signaling chemicals in the young blood. Muscle progenitor cells have a protein switch on their surface called "Notch". Injured muscles make a signal chemical "Delta", and this activates "Notch", telling the cells to heal the injury. Older mice had less "Delta" in their injured muscles than young mice, until they were sharing the young blood. And it wasn't just muscles that benefited from the young blood, liver injuries healed in the old mice as well. The Brm protein develops in old livers and seems to block the E2F hormone signal that tells the liver progenitor cells to heal the liver. This is reversed when the young blood is circulated. In his 1941 novel "Methuselah's Children", Robert Heinlein's future rejuvenation treatment is mainly about replacing all of the old blood tisssue in an old person with new, young blood. So how did they know that the rejuvenation was caused by factors in the blood, and not by young cells from the young mice, transplanting themselves through the common blood supply, into the old mice? Well, they genetically engineered the young mice to have cells that glow in ultra-violet light. The old mice, had non-glowing cells. So when the old mice became youthful, all they had to do was shine ultra-violet light on them to see if the healed injuries glowed. None of the old mice glowed, so the researchers were certain that only the young blood was causing the fast healing in the old mice. Hormones are the chemical communications system of the body. It seems to be that the young hormones are not being produced as much in the older animals. This may tie in with those people who are changing their hormonal balance with caloric restriction diets. They eat less calories than normal, and their body chemistry changes in a way that has proved to cause mice to live longer. People who have tried this have found that so many hormonal systems change, that women have to change back to a normal diet if they want to have children. Unethically, you could imagine the Red Cross putting the AGE of the donor on the bottle with the blood type, and there being a whole international black market in young blood. The hope for effective and ethical treatment lies in synthetic hormones. Blood tissue is very complex, with thousands of sugars and proteins and hormones, it may take some time to isolate which hormones are sending the signals for healing and rejuvenation. They know that Delta will rejuvenate muscle, E2F will rejuvenate livers, they just have to identify the signals for brain, bone and other cells. They have already developed and tested a Delta-mimicking drug that rejuvenates mice muscle cells, and it should work equally well in humans. How can the old recover the powers of the youth? Its all about communication! So old mice vampires using the signals in the blood of glow-in-the-dark, young mice, may help elderly people recover from disease and injury just like young people. References: Giving new life to old muscles Scientists closer to identifying cells that could rebuild muscle Hormone could be the elixir of youth Young Blood Found To Revive Aging Muscles Age-related muscle loss linked to protein interplay Young Blood Revives Aging Muscles, Stanford Researchers Find Progenitor Cells Can Have Protective Effect Against Brain Trauma HUMAN EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS: A PRIMER SOLVO Biotechnology Glossary Lousy Habits, Long Life. Why?

September 27, 2005

Discovery feedburned

I've also finally gotten all the Discovery MP3 files up to ourmedia.org and archive.org, and then fed that to feedburner.net, and redirected the old feed to the new feedburned one. The result should be not only a better podcast to catch, but also we will get the actual numbers of subscribers. I had a complaint from Boston a few weeks ago because I was slow in updating the Discovery feed! I had no idea we had US listeners. With Feedburner, we should start showing up on iTunes, and ourmedia.org provide the bandwidth for free. Subscribe here at http://feeds.feedburner.com/Discoveryradio

Vampire Domestication talk by Peter Watts

Vampire Domestication talk by Peter Watts
This is a clever teaser for his new novel Blindsight to be released early next year.
I tried to convert the wmv file into a DVD, but all my software cuts off the edges of the slides, which ruins some good jokes.

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